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Re: Wholesale neon !
Posted By: neontek In Response To: Re: Wholesale neon ! (MVCS)
Date: Monday, 15 October 2007, at 8:43 p.m.
> Does everyone here live in fantasy? I don't
> really give a damn, if you know who I am or
> not GB, or anyone else here for that matter.
> It has nothing to do with any statements
> made.> I have never once said anything about SVP's
> product quality. I don't doubt his products
> could be one of the best, but, they are
> certainly only one of the best available,
> among others.> I am absolutely elated for you that your
> system is so wonderful that you purchased
> from him. But, so what? When I see the
> nonsense in here, like the treatment given
> Juan, or totally stupid, thoughtless
> responses from the likes of Neontek, when
> questioned about his trying to exclude Juan
> from the market, or you kissing Mark's ass
> about his products, I see a mirror image of
> the exact same local neon benders, who have
> made us decide to bring this temporary
> necessity in house. No wonder most sign
> companies and sign shops are running from
> you guys, and that this trade is dying.> I have enjoyed this little excursion into
> the world of self import. It might be time
> you all woke up and realized you are only a
> small portion of the overall sign industry
> (and the most bothersome and profit killing
> one at that)and fastly becoming an
> expendable one to boot. And, a lot of that
> is due to just this kind of ridiculous self
> importance and inflated egos about your
> product.> If there were a reliable, affordable and
> conscientious bender in our area, we
> wouldn't bother to bring this in-house. It
> is a costly, time consuming and unreliable,
> product necessity, for the small amount of
> the industry it addresses. But, at least for
> the next few years, has to be dealt with.
> Hopefully, future technology will eliviate
> the immediate need of trying to keep the
> junk already out there, lighting.> Enjoy the ride folks, you have been my best
> argument for what the future holds. Like all
> products that reach obsolescence, the days
> are numbered. Oh god, now everyone is going
> to accuse us of being an LED reps too!
> Geeze...get a grip.Well, you may not be an LED rep., but apparently your much worse than one.
If you despise our product so intensely, why set up a neon plant (I pitty the tubebender you employ-geez)? Let your competion handle neon. No one is forcing you to do so.
Neon IS a reliable product when a knowlegable, talented, fairly compensated, tubebender is involved.
My rates allow room for a 50% markup in my area, but most shops mark it up 70-90% (more power to them-get what you can). Of course in your greedy world that may be considered "profit-killing", I don't know. Maybe you're looking for a "Juan shop". It sounds like you want something for nothing to me.
We may become as rare as "signpainters" in this world of technology over talent, but you're the cause of it moreso than ourselves. Your passion is money, ours is NEON. You envision a sign business employed with no-talent monkeys, enabling all profit to enter your hands. Just as Vinyl made most signs generic and ugly, so will LED's. "Your world" will be an ugly one.
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