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Re: This is funny
Posted By: Gavin In Response To: This is funny (SVP Neon Equipment)
Date: Wednesday, 17 October 2007, at 8:48 a.m.
> Do you know Gavin personally? Do you know me
> personally? Are you aware of how long I
> communicated with Gavin, what the
> communications consisted of and how many
> things he requested shipping quotes on
> before I reached the conclusion that Gavin
> was never going to buy anything? Considering
> you used the auto industry as an example, he
> is a tire kicker IMO. That in itself is not
> the problem. I spend countless hours working
> and dealing with people just like that every
> day. Not to mention the countless hours I
> spend helping people who have never bought
> anything from SVP. And I am glad to do it if
> it will help the neon industry as a whole.
> So, would you like me to go on with your
> hypocrisy of "calling the kettle
> black"? You are merely taking things
> out of context in an effort to discredit my
> position, nothing more.> See above comments.
> Let's set the record straight (again). Why
> don't you tell everyone what your partner
> Lloyd's offer was and exactly what my
> response was? No? Fine, I will. His offer
> was $350 for a brand new Pyrex manifold. My
> response was to make him a counter offer
> *without comment*. I did not even include a
> note with my counter offer. I said nothing.
> He declined the counter offer and that was
> the end of our communication on that item.> Don't get your accusations confused with
> another ridiculously low offer he made on a
> different item (strike one to you), to which
> I did reply with a counter offer and a note.
> The note for that item simply said that he
> needed to get realistic with his offers,
> which is a common response of mine to people
> who want something for nothing. And because
> I anticipate repercussions like this from
> people like you who are not really serious,
> I keep correspondence. I still have the
> email from eBay with the original offer for
> the manifold as well as the one with my
> counter offer - just in case there is any
> question as to what was actually said and
> not said. Makes me wonder which of my
> competitors you are, or which one put you up
> to this. (Strike two to you).> (Side note: Why is it lately that a select
> few people are claiming I said things I
> didn't? I have a theory, but I will save it
> for now.)> If the whole concept of making a "Best
> Offer" to a legitimate business escapes
> you it would be wasted effort to explain it.> Yes, I agree. I think it would be best if
> you contacted Daco, EGL, Eurocom, TecnoLux,
> Transco, Voltarc, et al, and made them the
> same offer of $350 for a new manifold that
> you made me. But don't be surprised if you
> get the response you accused me of making.> If you want to spend a lot more money with
> another company because you can't deal with
> my "arrogance" it's certainly your
> choice. But it is not a very sound business
> decision to let your personal feelings get
> in the way of company expenditures for
> equipment purchases.> See above comments.
> My customer service is second to none.
> Anyone who says it is not has never dealt
> with me. My "arrogance" makes sure
> of that. (A person is often accused of being
> arrogant because their knowledge, confidence
> and position is unacceptable to the accuser
> because of their own shortcomings).> It cost me $3,000? It cannot
> "cost" someone something they
> never had. And from where I come from $350
> is a long way from $3,000. Even considering
> the retail price for the manifold he made an
> offer on, along with retail price for a
> diffusion pump and mercury trap, it is no
> where near $3,000.> Strike three, game over.
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Do you know Gavin personally? Do you know me personally? Are you aware of how long I communicated with Gavin, what the communications consisted of and how many things he requested shipping quotes on before I reached the conclusion that Gavin was never going to buy anything?
Why dont you tell them Mark???
Ok i will, First up, you contact me via this forum on a discussion about mercury in the manifold etc to try to sell your connectors and yep! I asked for a price inc shipping.
You then send me your price list.
I have asked for quotes on
connectors,
Mercury dispenser
Diffusion pump,
I may have looked at getting a manifold from you but im not sure, but what the hell - lets chuck that one in also.
Then we discuss the possibility of shipping electrodes before you deemed them not to SVP standards. But they worked out more expensive than me buying Eurocom ones domestically.
Then i contacted you recently about the dif pump listed on Ebay (2nd hand one. My email was something like" if you get another dont bother listing it - contact me, ill pay the asking price straight away" You never replied as i now gather from this whole discussion that i was a pain in the butt and an agent for someone else.So we have possibly 6 items over 2 years.
And yet you use this to try to discredit me suggesting that i am in cahoots with some competition of yours. Seeing as im based in Australia are you really suggesting international espionage?? How the hell do i know who your competition is??? Im too busy dealing with dickheads in this country who discredit people to make their crappy neon look better!
If i thought for one second that what you said about me in a public forum could hurt my business id be looking at a deformation case. If i was American based i wouldnt think twice.
I gave you the opportunity to retract the comment - you add a disclaimer.
Jesus Mark - get a grip and check your sources before spouting crap
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